Why Don't F1 Cars Have Closed Cockpits?

Opublikowany 26 lut 2021
Formula 1 cars have changed many times over the years... but why has a closed cockpit never been introduced?
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  • Honestly, i think it is a potential threat and does more damage than you can see. It may have been useful in some cases but we will never know how many times a driver has (and will) screw up because of a that rod right in the middle of his visual field. But hey, it looks safe, so everyone is happy.

  • I didn’t like the halo at first but when I saw Alonso and lecre I accepted it cause without the result would have been bad. But I don’t like the idea of the wind screen, the halo gives good protection and when you start closing the cockpit you start to loose the basics of f1, it’s different for a reason, I don’t want it to go down this path because I feel we’re going to end up with a full cockpit and closed wheels and it won’t even be f1 anymore. I know it sounds like the halo all over again but I tgink this is different

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  • Halo is ridiculous... bring back the days of racing when, he with the biggest gentleman sausage, would win due to pure will. 30 years of watching F1 and its dull. Danger should be the middle name. You Don't see Moto GP riders worrying about safety... just winning.

  • Introducing UF1 Space hip racing:

  • first of all, it will be insufficient air for the driver, second, if there is a crash and the car is on fire and at the aame time the shild is jam, the driver will be dead in it.

  • Because their bottom line is money

  • pi play the f1 games a lot and the halo makes it harder to see things in front of you like the racing line and distant cars i understand the safety the halo employs so I'm thinking a closed off cockpit without the centre beam of the halo would make it easier to see in front of you both in the games and in real life thus allowing for more time to react to accidents and upcoming turns just my thoughts on the topic from what i know of how the halo works and how the driver see's past it.

  • I don’t know if i am late to the discussion but here I go: I think the halo design might stay for longer or doesn’t get replaced by the cockpit. I don’t know to what degree sound is an issue but I don’t want to imagine how bad it would be if it is. Also cooling appears much easier with the halo design than the canopy, since you don’t need to add any additional cooling as far as I know which could make the car heavier and slow it down potentially. Perhaps one of the possible solutions might be to help eliminate debris further. Maybe a possible introduction of something that is able to break or bent but not shatter into the general parts of a f1 car. I am far from even knowing enough to make an actual judgement on this stuff as I don’t follow sports in general. But maybe drivers could be protected by somehow making debris left by cars in the case of a crash less. If anyone knows about this or if something like that already exists please tell me I’d love to know.

  • An enclosed cockpit may reduce the pilots emergency exit, and it may enclose toxic fumes in case of a fire.

  • 5:57 " inn just 15 MINUTES ¡¡¡ The Drivers be DED by Thenns ¿¿¿¿

  • 2017 - "Halo? They're ruining F1 with a butt ugly "roll cage" that's gonna stick out like a sore thumb. It's an insult to the open wheel and open cockpit heritage that's the very foundation defining F1." 2018 - 2019 - "Oh well, at least they're not as fugly as I thought they were gonna be." 2020 - "I'm sure glad they didn't listen to me and everyone else who pushed back on that whole halo thing." ... 2021 - "Can we please just say no to any ideas of putting windscreens on F1 cars? Indy cars already kind of looked like F1's ugly, ungainly, overweight and boxy cousin, and those windshields amount to putting birth control glasses on the ugliest pig in the barnyard. FFS."

  • I think they could do some kind of THIN AIR TUBES connected to the legs and torso, to get air from outside the car, possibly 2x 0.4inches holes at front car. And with that you could close the cockpit like a fighter jet.

  • I like the look of the Indy car cockpit more then the current F1 cars. Gives them all a more unique look in my opinion.

  • F1 needs to put a plastic flap like a dog door on top to make cooling better

  • The halo right in the middle is so annoying to me. I don't know how they get used to it

  • The screen can be fitted or removed in 15 minutes to recover a driver, or for maintenance? 15 minutes? Now, does that seem safe? Can the driver exit the car quickly on his own with it in place?

  • It's open so that the drivers can get out quickly if there is a fire

  • an independent cockpit that on command will eject with the driver in it.

  • Why not 1. If fire good luck 2. Sticky hot black rubber on glass 3. Constant hitting off track sand gravel And many more.

  • indicar looks better

  • Uhm yeah with the canopy they’d be turbo broiled in the malaysian or singapore grand prix

  • I wouldn't mind a fighter jet style canopy I think I looks nicer then the areo screen

  • The IndyCar screen can be removed in 15 MINUTES to recover a driver? Well, good thing I don’t have to endure my burning car for more than 15 minutes. That would be bad.

  • Having an enclosed cockpit could have killed grojean last season actually

  • Might consider putting “c ram” on the car, and shooting down the debris or other car ?

  • Im fine with a closed cockpit but the glare from those screen just ruin the overall dumb I prefer the fighter jet style between the 2 though

  • 2:14

  • Cause we like the look of motorcyclists in a race car

  • Grojean would have died in a closed cockpit.

  • so that the driver can get out easily incase of an emergeny situation occuring...what if the closing mechanism gets stuck? .....btw not looked at video at all....it's a no brainer

  • Surely the indycar solution isn't as safe as it would be harder to get out of the car or retrieve a driver if there was an accident

  • I think next step will be, drivers sitting in the nice air-conditioned room, and remotely drive their cars.

    • And every driver gets a participation trophy.

    • Its called esports.

  • A f1 car without a halo looks naked and unsafe to me nowadays. See what the future holds that make todays f1 car looks unsafe and naked.

  • Well, you still didn't answer the question. Why?

  • Money that's why be too expensive

  • If F1 did the full canopy or a version of the windscreen it would reduce the number of ways a driver could get out of the cockpit. I remember when Grosjean was talking about his accident, he tried getting out thru multiple holes in the halo. If he didn't have those options, his story could have ended differently. I hope F1 takes that into account.

  • I’m still surprised that F1 drivers aren’t clothed in bubble wrap! People forget that, when it was exciting, motorsport was a professional blood sport. The only motor racing left (worthy of kudos) is still endurance I.e. Le Mans

  • A full shielded cockpit makes sense. From the spectator's POV it doesn't really matter. When I first started watching F1 you could see the driver, then only the head, then just the top of the head and now not much. Safety over style.

  • They dont need te make it "to" safe

  • weight

  • Thats my questions when I was 8

  • Really simple answer: because the open cockpit is what really defines an f1 car. Any person can recognize an f1 car simply by the open cockpit, its something thats been there since the sport was created.

  • Today F1 is a joke. Before 2000's Formula 1 was actually the best sport series in the world.

  • One of my Aunt's best friend was Justin Wilson, although I was never able to visit his house to ever meet him, my parents did and Justin gave me a hat, a shirt, and a signed copy of his model car. may he rest in peace

  • think closed cockpits and the screens and halo will make it harder for drivers to get out in a hurry. IE if the car catches fire they need to get out fast. FIA has bought in a lot of new safety features over the years to protect drivers that actualy put drivers more at risk. so ended up banning them again. They banned pitstops cause pit crew were getting injured or killed by the cars drivers not wanting to wait for the all clear to pull out. That lasted a couple of seasons before they allowed pitstops again. Refueling was used rarely when it was legal. It was dangerous and took too long so most teams didnt bother to refuel they put enough fuel in the car to last the race. FIA decided to force teams to refuel by restricting the size of fuel tanks so no cars could finish the race unless they refueled. Then cause of fires refueling got banned again. FIA has a bad rep on safety features that cause more harm than good.

  • take the indy/red bull windshield and put slots in it. DONE! (structural integrity will be preserved via allmighty honeycomb design)

  • because it will make the car slower snd it takes to much weight

  • Seriously?!?! Too hot?! F1 you guys may be super rich, but dang you guys are super stupid... Just copy IndyCar.

  • Please... NO Closed Cockpits in F1. Integrated Halo does the trick. Partial Canopy/halo or Windscreen/halo at most but let drivers take naked saunas at a spa. INDYCAR will never be the same.

  • The halo looks like a flip flop

  • Why don't pilots just drive the cars remotely? There is no need to expose the pilot today. It can be done with RC-a simple safety measure.

  • As long as nobody dies

  • F1 is all about technology and innovation ... they just have not thought of a windshield yet :-)

  • 15 minutes to recover a driver. That sounds safe for sure

  • Maybe I am the only one, but I like the desing of the halo. I think the shape of the actual F1 cars works pretty well with the halo desing.

  • Halo design doesn't protect small debris that flies at high speed

  • those driver deserve full protection, they could've died in a second when hit by debris

  • BECAUSE THE DRIVER NEEDS AIR FOR COOLING. I just saved your time. You're welcome.

  • maybe a grid..a titanium grid with holes leaving air passing through and much possibly visibility

  • FYI, Indy Car didn’t invent the helmet hose cooling system. NASCAR has been using it for years so credit where credit is due.

  • I think with a closed cockpit design Grosjean probably wouldn't be alive today - he had to pull himself out of the car, and after that crash the closed cockpit would've obstructed him.

  • It would be more aero.

  • F1 cars keep getting uglier, faster, less agile, less interesting, and safer. Nothing for a fan to see anymore.

  • Well this didn't age well

  • Closed cockpit WILL happen, it’s just a matter of when.

  • Grosjean wouldn't have been able to get out if his car had a wrap around wind screen like Indy

  • Aerospace has the frozen chicken test for engines and canopies. Where they are shot out of a cannon. It’s not surprising that the aerospace canopy passed.

  • Safety issue and temperature for driver.

  • Why stop at the jet fighter roof? I say go full ejection seat... computer triggered based on sensors.

  • Ok as soon as people use emojis in their videos, the cringe makes me hate it.

  • What I don't understand is, since the idea really started because of a small debris (the spring), why did they take a design that can't stop small debris??? The Halo + canopy design is the best as it protect from both big and small objects, but the Halo alone is a disaster waiting to happen, literally the exposed pilot area is much bigger than the front area of the halo!

  • Question thou...what would've happened to Grosjean? Would he not be able to escape or will the fire not be able to enter?

  • We need safety for the sport it’s just stupid without the halo

  • „can withstand 15 tons of force“

  • This video is from feb 2021 but does not mention grosjean's accident? How would that have been impacted? How likely would he have made it out with the added problem of a windshield in the way? Would it have helped maybe?

  • Didn't even watch the video but with common sense I would think safety, if the car was ever stuck and on fire. The glass would not be removable and he wouldn't be able to escape. Just look at the recent grosjean incident, if it was a closed cockpit he might be a lot more burned and fucked up. Also I'm sure maybe with technology it wouldn't be much of an issue but at speeds like that and vibration I can see the glass being an issue with vision. The glass won't stay clean always and with the sun and everything I would think it would cause visual problems. On top of that I doubt they would install A/C in those things and with a closed cockpit in the sun, some of the locations would scorch the drivers. Maybe everything I said can be fixed or isn't an issue but with no engineering knowledge and just common sense, it seems like it's not the best idea.

  • One massive con with a closed cockpit would be F1 drivers unable to quickly release themselves from their seats when in a crash causing a fire in the car which could set the engine alight possibly blowing up the F1 car while the driver attempting to open up the cockpit.

  • Because it’s disgusting

  • I still think it looks stupid, why does there have to be a post in the middle? Why not 2 on either side?

  • Need touchscreen with Spotify installed.

  • 1:22 clean etnies lo cuts those are rare to see!

  • just put the damn halo in front of the screen and call it a fooking day

  • So basically before 2 deaths it was all about looks over safety

  • 4:19 it looks so cool

  • Tbh I think the halo is and looks great. It gives the car a more flowing look and it helps the safety massively. The cars would just look weird without them now I think

  • Star Trek has been using force-fields for their brigs for decades. If Gene Roddenberry used them in the 1960s, then what is the problem using them now?

  • Not criticizing, but they're looking more and more like cars from Speed Racer

  • The indy car thing seems so claustrophobic like it would be hard to get out of. High windscreen all around plus a tube attached to the helmet

  • Also look how dirty the cars got in turkey 2020 it would be a nightmare to see out the cockpit and multiple stops would be made to clean the aero screen

  • Air-conditioning isn't an option?

  • If Roman Grosjean had been under a canopy, he’d have been trapped inside.

  • I honestly do not like the subtitles interweaved into the video and the sudden larger fonts. Sucks to watch

  • 👍🏻

  • Air con n a cup holder...

  • Why not having two support structures at the sides to have a clean vision instead of one exactly at the middle?

  • Imagine when groesjan had a crash if it was closed cockpit, would he survive?

  • If this would be the Design, grosjean would probably be dead

  • Closed cockpit with an emergency seat 😂

  • tbh indy car design look sick